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Тема: OFF: Имею ли право использовать триал-программу после истечения срока.

Если она продолжает функционировать как и раньше?
И ничего мне не пишет, что срок закончен, а как и в самом начале висит тпбличка, что по вопросам лицензирования обращаться туда-то и туда-то.
Законно ли это?
Обязан ли я сам засекать время начала её использования?

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Re: OFF: Имею ли право использовать триал-программу после истечения срока.

Почитайте лицензию. Если срок там указан и он истёк, то права вы не имеете. Очевидно же.
Если же вас интересует не это, а вопрос, могут ли вас поймать и как именно, то так и спросите.

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Re: OFF: Имею ли право использовать триал-программу после истечения срока.

В лицензии там об этом ничего не написано.
Интересует всё-таки вопрос, если в лицензии ничего об этом не сказано, но на их сайте написано, что триал срок - 2 месяца.
Обязан ли я помнить эту дату.
Я вот о чём
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Re: OFF: Имею ли право использовать триал-программу после истечения срока.

Почти Достоевский. "Тварь я дрожащая или право имею?"

Предложения в русском языке начинаются с большой буквы и заканчиваются точкой.
В названии ветки всегда должен быть указан язык программирования или среда исполнения скрипта, если это возможно.

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Re: OFF: Имею ли право использовать триал-программу после истечения срока.

Сейчас всё внимательно перечитал - я оказывается программу вообще без лицензии пользую.
Поэтому и табличка о лицензировании висит.
Там триал лицензию нужно отдельно ставить.
Но меня и так всё устраивает.
Законно ли такое использование если придёт проверка?

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Re: OFF: Имею ли право использовать триал-программу после истечения срока.

Вы всё-таки определитесь, чьё "устраивает" вас интересует — ваше, общественности данного форума или проверки. Если последнее, то логично у них и узнать, чего им надо, чтобы использование программы они посчитали законным. Мало ли что вам тут на форуме напишут. Вы же потом на форум не сможете сослаться, когда вас "посадят до кучи".

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Re: OFF: Имею ли право использовать триал-программу после истечения срока.

Я уверен, что они сами не знают.
Но должен же быть какой-то кодекс законов.
Я бы эту прграмму возможно и уговорил бы начальство купить, но HP уже в течение месяца ничего не отвечают.
Когда им звонишь, отнекиваются, что менеджер. который занимется этим в отпуске и т.д.

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Re: OFF: Имею ли право использовать триал-программу после истечения срока.

Malcev, описание там же, справа: HP RGS Licensing Guide.

P.S. Не стесняйтесь писать или звонить по поводу лицензий в представительство.

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Re: OFF: Имею ли право использовать триал-программу после истечения срока.

Да, я его как-раз только сегодня и заметил.
И поэтому понял, что у меня вообще никакой лицензии не стояло.
И что надо специально её устанавливать.
А вот в представительстве мне уже месяц голову мурыжат.
Сами они об этом ничего не знают, поэтому делают запросы в главный офис, а их там игнорируют, как я понимаю.

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Re: OFF: Имею ли право использовать триал-программу после истечения срока.

Я всегда думал, что наказуема только модификация программы, а если во время время выполнения программы появляются надписи типа "купи меня", то это называется Nagscreen и если они не смущают, то нет смысла покупать программу. Например WinRar точно так же защищён.

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Re: OFF: Имею ли право использовать триал-программу после истечения срока.

Александр_, если не покупать — то и пользоваться позже оговоренного срока нельзя. Теоретически, конечно, тот же Ghisler не будет стучать несознательным гражданам по голове, если они будут продолжать использовать TC и после завершения пробного срока. Но, в любом случае, надо понимать, что это уже будет нарушением лицензии. Равно и в случае WinRar.

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Не хочу показаться заумным, но здесь скорее вопрос более по этике, нежели риторика, как это может показаться на первый взгляд. Попробую объяснить что я имею в виду.
В большинстве триальных\шароварных программ при установке в лицензионном соглашении написано о том, что по истечении срока триала, программу необходимо деинсталлировать. Однако, если этот пункт не оговорен явным образон, ровно как и о типах лицензий ничего в нем не сказано, то с юридической точки зрения выходит, что нарушений со стороны пользователя по истечении срока триала в ее использовании нет при условии соблюдения прочих пунктов лицензионного соглашения, как то: модификация, коммерческое распространение и т.д. А при чем здесь этика? Начнем с того, что после чистки системы от всякого рода мусора, может статься работоспособность программы при ее переустановке, иначе говоря, получаем снова триал в N-дней. И вот здесь возникает вопрос по совести: воспользоваться сим или нет? Согласитесь, здесь уже юриспруденция бессильна.
Я солидарен с alexii касательно обращений в представительство, однако хотелось бы дополнить, что в таких вопросах не лишним была бы консультация юриста.